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7/23/2019 "Rouverture des Entretiens de Po&sie" par Michel Deguy
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|nl xls|l lr `lrrl xls|l.
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o| `j|xp bl `lrrl pon`l $wox ltlmwel elp njmp blp ansarp woxra`awlx rle Lnrxlraln! ?%
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moap wj|x baeorlx eo pwdxl borrlnrajn*o|barajn% wj|pplx $fl nl bap p|xrj|r wop
hjjprlx ! el `jnor|p $j| `jmml jn sj|bxo baxl!. Hxlc 6 bslejwwlx% okxonbax%
baslxpacalx el parl bl eo xls|l% lr elp xln`jnrxlp lccl`raslp% ln Lnrxlralnp j| o|rxlp
j``opajnp. Ae q o wl| bl kxonblp xls|lp 9 lr mml% `jmml ml el bapoar x`lmmlnr
|n anrleel`r|le bl xlnjm% cxjablmlnr 6 Ae nq o we|p bl kxonbl xls|l // Nj|p
wj|xp|asjnp% lr mml bl we|p ln we|p b`abmlnr% eo xls|l Wj#pal% ln ronr |l
kxonbl xls|l o| mjanp saxr|leelmlnr bjn`% j| conropra|lmlnr $mml pa elp eahxoaxlp
pjhpranlnr nl wop eltwjplx o| wxlmalx xonk osl` plp `j|panlp!. Lr nj|p eo par|jnp
we|p xpje|mlnr p|x pjn parl. @eo|bl M. so woxelx bl `l bslejwwlmlnr osl` elp broaep
$Ae nq o wop bl broaep% bapoar Soexq!.
8. @l |l fowwleel eo wjra|l % bonp |nl o``lwrajn hlo|`j|w we|p
`jmwxdlnpasl |l ejxbanoaxl $njn xb|arl |nl xceltajn rdjxa|l p|x el
posjax-coaxl $rl`dn! blp wjmlp baprank|p plejn blp klnxlp ! eo wjra|l% bjn`% lpr
njn pl|elmlnr banrleeakln`l osl` pjn rlmwp% moap lpr $j| wl|r rxl! eanrleeakln`l b|
rlmwp 6 `eoaxsjqon`l $lr njn we|p sapajn xjmonra|l! bonp lr p|x ewj|l % |a
`dlx`dl pl coaxl lnrlnb|l bonp el Bhor% eo `jnrxjslxpl $Hobaj|-Maenlx!% m|erawel lr
dj|el|t p|x `leel-`a $`lpr--baxl elp bhorp onrdxjwjejka|lp% wdaejpjwda|lp%
wjeara|lp% pj`ajejka|lp% lprdra|lp!. Leel `dlx`dl `jmwrlx osl`% lr p|x% plp o|rxlp%
`lpr--baxl osl` `l |leel nlpr wop moap osl` |a leel nlpr wop pl|el% pa fl w|ap baxl.
Bonp eo wlxpwl`rasl j `do|l cjap % `lpr--baxl plejn esnlmlnr $pa
esnlmlnr lpr njrxl morxl ! sjqlv elpwrarajnp j blp wjrlp `jpaknlnr!% leel lpr
ln |lprajn% bonp elp |lprajnp. Wjpal lr6 wjpal lrwjeara|l 9 wjpal lr`|er|xl 9 wjpal
lrposjax 9 wjpal lrxleakajn% lr`. Eo wjra|l% elpwxar bl wjpal % pa sj|p sj|elv $lr
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njn wop sok|lmlnr o| plnp j Soexq% el wjra`aln% bapoar |l el Sok|l roar pjn
lnnlma wxan`awoe!% eo wjra|l lr $j| osl`! pjn posjax coaxl pjnr o| `|x blp `djplp
`jmml eanba|l `lr q .
Eo``jxb lnrxl nj|p p|x rj|r `leo nl so wop bl pja. Nj|p nl nj|p pjmmlp wop
`jn`lxrp eo cojn blp djmmlp wjeara|lp p|x |n wxjkxomml. Nj|p osonjnp
lnplmhel % ln anslnronr o|ppa njrxl baslxpar.
Lr pj|p |le onkel% blw|ap |le wjanr bl eo s|l bl `lrrl `eoaxsjon`l bpaxl%
anrlxsalnr `lrrl wjra|l knxoel $wl|r-rxl rxjw knxoel plejn `lxroanp% lr `lpr
wj|x|ja fl salnp bl pj|eaknlx eo baslxpar bl njrxl lnplmhel ! :
@lpr wj|x el coaxl lnrxlsjax |l fl poapap |n ltlmwel o| sje bonp ej|xokon blp
nj|sleelp % blp ancjxmorajnp pa sj|p sj|elv 9 wj|x anpaprlx p|x `l wjanr% |a nlpr
wop |n wjanr moap el `|x b| wxjheml% `le|a bl eo `xon`l*`jncaon`l `jnplnral $j|
njn! `lrrlwjraq|l 6 |n manaprxl ceomhonr nl|c% nlxka|l lr xlmox|ohel% mml pa
`l nlpr wop e|a% Oxno|b Mjnrlhj|xk% |a lpr ln `o|pl occaxmoar `lr r pjn
anrlxsal{l|x 6 @do`|n lpr eahxl bl coaxl elp `jmwoxoapjnp |ae sl|r . Ld haln njn /
F|prlmlnrwop.
Erxl-`jmml elp |nlp elp o|rxlp blp `djplp lnrxl leelp% wj|x el f|klmlnr%
`lpr `l |l `dlx`dl eo wlnpl wox plmheon`l-bapplmheon`l% wj|x elp woxroklx8% elp
wxjwjplx.
Eo `jmwoxoapjn% mjnpal|x el Manaprxl% nlpr wop eoappl o| hjn weoapax abajra|l.
8 Oee|pajn mo q|lxleel bonp Eahxorajn 6el ``eaprl $el sej! lpr-ae `jmml|n warjn j| `jmml |n mjrjxap% b|
`r o|rj-mjhaelp : J woppl eo baccxln`l b`apasl : J|% wj|x wxlnbxl |n ltlmwel hxeonr b| `rblp wjeoxarp wxan`awoelp 6 e|n nlpr wopeo|rxl% `jmml eoccaxmoar |n rarxl cmanaprl bLeapohlrd Hobanrlx 9 moape|n lpr `jmml eo|rxl :
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El wxba`or bl erxl-`jmml% bapjnp el `jmwoxonr |a wlxmlr eo xowwxj`dohaear
$el sal|t woxomrxjn bl Wxjrokjxop! nlpr wop |n rxoar p|wlxca`ale% `jnranklnr% oxharxoaxl
eo mlp|xl bl mlp lnsalp 9 moap ln welan bonp eo q|abbar% j| rxl-rle bl eo `djpl% |a
dparl % ce|`r|l $pl mromjxwdjpl ! lnrxl pjn rxl-osl` T j| rxl-osl` Q. Po
xowwxj`dohaear . Leel lpr owwoxaohel osl` rleel o|rxl pj|p |nl djmjejkal
anslnrlx% amokanlx n|eelmlnr wox anb|`rajn.
Ln wjeara|l o|ppa% mjnpal|x el Manaprxl% `jmwoxoapjn coar xoapjn. Eo njpl
wjra|l $eo njpal :! amokanl blp djmjejkalp |a bap-fjaknlnr eo mmlr lr
eoerxar. Coaxl lnrxlxeo wjra|l bonp eanrleeakahaear% j| bhor % `jnrlmwjxoan plxoar
jwwjxr|n. Owwlejnp wjra|l ejwxorajn bl wlnpl |a oxxo`dl elp `jnrlnral|t*el
`dj`% eo Bapw|rl eo vjnl kxapl blp jwanajnp anbaccxlnrlp bl eo bjto $`lp `jncanp
pja-baponr eoappp eowwx`aorajn bl `do`|n ! anpj| al|pl lr aknjxonrl bl eo
bmox`dl cjn`axlmlnr woxomrxaq|l0 `jmwoxonrl-cjxmonrl b| f|klmlnr e|a-mml
axxb|`rahel e anrleeakln`l `jmhanorjaxl `qhlxnra|l. Eo eahlxr bl wlnplx nlpr wop
eo pj|slxoanlr bl mo wxcxln`l pwjnronl % nlpr wop o|rj`xoral o|rapra|l.
Nj|p nl woxejnp wop $ eanpronr! `lrrl cjap bl eowjpal o| plnp bl e`xar|xl
ln wjml $|leel pjar f|pracal ln slxp% eaknlp oeanlp% j| ln wxjpl ! 9 moap
`jmml ltwxaln`l lr woxjel $lr mml woxelx % o| plnp b|n woxelx ! 9 ponp bj|rl eo
baccxln`l wxjpl*wjpal lpr-leel lpplnraleel eo earrxor|xl 9 ae q so bl eo mmjaxl bl
`lrrl rxobarajn bl eo eonk|l ln wjmlp% |a% donronr njrxl mmjaxl% orrlnblnr brxl
`arp% `lpr--baxl b`eoaxlx eo `ax`jnpron`l |a elp xowwleel% lr brxl `eoaxp el|x rj|x
wox `lrrl `ax`jnpron`l.
0El woxomrxjn bl Wxjrokjxop pl eoappl rxob|axl wox rlxml bl `jmwoxoapjn .
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Moap nj|p woxejnp bl% lr bonp% `l |l bar el mjr oeelmonb Ba`dr|nk% j| bl
kxonbp rlxmlp ln cxonoap |a nl wjplnr wop bl eamarlp% rlep OxrlrEarrxor|xl. Bl eOxr%
bapjnp |ae lpr el `jnrxoaxl bl esopajn. Ae nq l|r fomoap njn we|p eoxr wj|x eoxr .
Pjn mjbl bl bwejalmlnr pj`aoe lpr blsln| el `|er|xle. Ln orrlnbonr elp xlwxaplp bl we|p
ejnk|lp onoeqplp lr anslprakorajnp% bapjnp |l eo wjpal nl pl porapcoar wop $mml pa leel
ln hnca`al! bl eo weo`l j eoppaknl el wdnjmnl `|er|xle% wdnjmnl pj`aoe rjroe. Jn
nl woxel we|p bl baslxrapplmlnr $lr% b|nl `lxroanl monaxl% jn o rjxr% bonp eo mlp|xl j
`l plxoar j``opajn bl xleaxl Wop`oe!. Moap jn woxel wox ltlmwel bonamorajn $foa mml
e| bonp el wxjkxomml b| nj|slo| Baxl`rl|x eo mlnrajn bl palprlp wjra|lp !. Njn
pl|elmlnr o nl xwjnbwop opplv |nl blmonbl we|p cjnbomlnroel% moap o xap|l bl
elmwjxrlx% eo wjpal % bcanaraslmlnr djxp bl pjn rxl $ln kxl` bl pjn osjax r !.
Eo wjpal coar moe % oaml baxl Wojej Cohhxa. O|rxlmlnr bar leel nlpr na |nl
rdxowal na |n woppl-rlmwp wj|x wxlmalx lr |orxaml kl $I.Ij`d.!. Wop bosonrokl nl
pl xb|ar-leel eo wlxcjxmon`l $ esnlmlnr!% |leel wl|rrxl $bl ba`rajn% bl sj`a-
cxorajn ln oeeaokl osl` bo|rxlp weopra`arp!. Eo wjpal rleel |leel pl wxjb|ar lpr
o|fj|xbd|a djmjnqma|l.
Ae q o bjn` ln mml rlmwp |l woxra`aworajn o| `|er|xle% o|t o`rasarp% |nl pjxrl
bl xpapron`l% j| xpaealn`l @jmmlnr : @lpr `l |l nj|p `dlx`djnp. @eo|bl so
sj|p coaxl lnrlnbxl pjn njn lr pjn j|a. Pjn lmwjxrlmlnr.
Eo `o|pl blp ponp-wowalxp lpr el sjqonr |a poee|ml bonp lr `jnrxl |n
mjnbl wopponr eam-mjnbl. Ae bjnnl plp wowalxp $|a nl pjnr wop cjx`mlnr blp
easxlp!% po sjat $po `jexl% pj|slnr% ln `jnslxporajn! o| ponp wowalx . @lpr wj|x
`dlx`dlx blp noappon`lp `jnrxl blp moecjxmorajnp bl we|p ln we|p mjnbaoeaplp
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$bapjnp wox earjrl!. Pjn `jpmjwjearapml % njn earoaxl ?177 lpr wj|x |nl o|rxl
mjnbaoeaporajn % wox el rxon% bl rxonpcjxmorajn bjnr el hle ltlmwel lpr `le|a b| rxonp
bl eo rxo-b|`rajn 6 bonp |n plnp we|p knxoeap% we|p anrlxo`rac% we|p pj|rln|*`jnran|.
Pa flp|appl moanrlnonr |nl eaprl% `l nl plxo wop `leel bl p|flrp rxoarlx bonp
njp pon`lp% moap `leel blp `djplp kxoslp `jnpabxlx% wlnplx% ltwejxlx 6
- lnplmhel $ln pl blmonbonr `l |l wl|r baxl lnplmhel ! 9
- slxp |nl wjra|l bl `l rlmwp% ln ronr |l xpaealn`l p|hrael lr
amweo`ohel eo mjnbaoeaporajn wxbjmanonrl $M|rorajn! wox xlbwejalmlnr
b|nl wlnpl b|n o|rxl mjnbl |a nlpr wop b| rj|r eO|rxl Mjnbl.
Ln sja`a |le|lp wxj``|worajnp 6
E`jejkal. _|l pjnr blsln|p moanrlnonr a.l. ln `lrrl wj|l bl bsoprorajn
bl eo rlxxl% |l fowwleel bltrxo-rlxxlprxorajn% elp mjracp xjmonra|lp $?4 l% ?1l% 87l
pa`elp! 9 rlep `lp bl|t% wxjwjpp wox Deblxean $Onblniln! 6
?. Opplmhelx eo hlo|r bl eo rlxxl
8. Doharlx wjra|lmlnr
Anrleel`r|oear% aboeaporajn% pwaxar|oear% xleakajpar. J| bl eo pjxral b|
xleakal|t .
Bl |ja eo eo`ar pl sl|r-leel el moanraln lr wxjflr% `jmml `jnbarajn b|nl
woat% j| bl eo wxlmwrajn blp k|lxxlp bl xleakajn % blp xleakajnp ln ronr |l% `do`|nl%
ealn j| eaonr% `amlnr j| oeeaon`l% bl rj|rl pj`ar lr `xjqon`lp mjxrleelmlnr
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lt`e|paslp elp |nlp blp o|rxlp. $Oslnax b|nl pjxrl bl moxxonapml knxoeap 9 bl
eordapml :!.
_|lpr-`l q|l el wdnjmnl `|er|xle : Bl eo baccxln`l lnrxl `|er|xl lr
`|er|xle $pa njrxl `|er|xl lpr eo `|er|xl `|er|xleel b| `|er|xle !. Wxlnbxl `lrrl |lprajn
wox eamokl 6 |lnrlnbjnp-nj|p moanrlnonr woxamokl :
Oanpa p|xwxlnbxajnp-nj|p eo m|rorajn ln `j|xp wox el blslnax `xon $ do|rl
bcanarajn ! bl eamokl% eo pjxral b| ejkjp j| ejka`ar $pjxral bl eo eonk|l! wj|x el
ejka`ale $sjax el bap`j|xp wjeara|l% lnrxl o|rxlp!% eo cosl|x blp djmjnqmalp.
Q o-r-ae ln`jxl |n plnp woxelx bl $wj|x! |nl sal bl elpwxar :
Lr xlcjnblx $j| xjhjxlx! |nl njra|l% |nl njpal% `jnrxl $ln x|aeahxlx :!
el plnporajn-apml p|hmlxklonr $`jxwp% dbjnapml% o|rapml! bo|fj|xbd|a.
Eamwxjhohel wdopl |eraml bl eonrdxjwjmjxwdjpl wlx`lwrahel bonp
moanrlp onnjn`lp wdaejpjwda|lp% wox ltlmwel bonp elp rarxlp rlep |l El pjax bl
e xar|xl $@ordlxanl Moeohj|! j| Owxp eo canar|bl $_|lnran Mlaeeoppj|t!
mxarl |le|lp pjanp bl wjra|l.
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